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CommentsAs a Belfast nationalist I believe that Kilmainham should be preserved at all costs. The people who restored it and who continue to work there are owed a huge debt by the nation. The preservation of our national monuments serves to remind us how far we have come and how much our people have suffered. A visit to Kilmainham is indeed a humbling experience and every school child should be brought at least once.
CommentsI was born in Dublin and came to Canada in 1956. My parents and the rest of my family lived at 1 Kickham Road and I went to school at Goldenbridge Convent. My father had his business in Kilmainham. I spent most of my early years in an around this area. Although I never visited the jail, it always reminded me of the history I was being taught at school. To lessen the importance of such a national monument to Ireland and its people by surrounding it with concrete and office space, is a desecration. Here in Ottawa, there is a height limit to any buildings in or around the Parliament buildings for this very reason. No building can be taller than the Parliament buildings, although the large builders have tried, time and again, to get around this bylaw. Please rethink your position on this very important subject and make sure that Kilmainham Jail remains untouched in its present setting. While travelling across the United States and other countries, Irish people and their descendants all are familiar with this part of Irish history.
CommentsIt is difficult to see why Kilmainham Gaol, a site of the greatest historic importance as regards the struggle for freedom of the Irish people, is treated so carelessly by the authorities. Willem van Baalen The Hague, Netherlands.
CommentsSo the boys are back in town now with planning application 2217/00. This Leapord does not even try to change its spots. A new number and now its to be called the Hueston Office Blocks (as of 2oth July 2001) - after Sean Hueston who was executed in Kilmainham Jail in 1916. What next!! Watch this space more to follow.
CommentsI am a resident of Kilmainham and I cannot understand why the area around the jail and the Royal Hospital has not been developed with tourists in mind - i.e. shops (arts, crafts etc), restaurants, coffee shops and now the plan is for office blocks which will dwarf the surrounding historial buildings - did we learn nothing from Woodquay!
Commentsplease try to keep the unique character of kilmainham, I'm a regular visitor to dublin, and have watched the gaol project grow over the last 6 years or so....... from Swansea, S.Wales
CommentsI wish to object to Charmside / Treasurys latest "unchanged" plans for Kilmainham. 2217/01 = 2467/00 of last year,what type of stunt are they trying to pull of with the consent of Dublin Corporation. We are really looking forward to Mary Taylor( Dublin Corporation's facilitator and schemer) moving into the area shortly, boy is she going to get some welcome. We note she is not moving into Inchicore village. Her token presence on SCR is nothing more than a hideout after she has agreed all with the developers. THe so called Integrated Area Plan is nothing more than a vechicle to allow developers plan and build CRAP with Taylors consent in Kilmainham.
Commentsthis area of beauty and heritage should not be destroyed by greedy fat cat developers. Dublin city
CommentsDear Sir/Madam As a local Kilmainham resident, I am concerned about future developments altering the historic "face" of the area. Consideration should be given to the symbollic importance Kilmainham Jail has in recent Irish history and the country's identity. I urge Planners to permit sensitive redevelopment of the site opposite the jail and not diminish its presence by the proposed high rise office buildings. The area has such great potential to provide so much more to tourists and visitors from around Ireland and would be a "win-win" for locals and visitors alike with the approval of developments addressing these obvious gaps in the area. Local resident, SCR, Dublin 8
CommentsI am an Irish citizen living in California U.S.A. I go home every year and I am deeply concerned about the development of the commercial site across from Kilmainham Gaol. Please do not let developers scar this important historic site. A development that would fit in more with the historical and physical perspective would be ideal. Please, please reconsider the approval of this development. Maureen Coleman San Diego, California U.S.A.
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CommentsAs frequent visitors to Dublin, we would like to lodge our objections to the proposed office building site near the historic Kilmainham Jail. Liam & Marti Massey of Eureka, California USA
CommentsDublin doesn't need any more offices
CommentsDear Sirs; Please preserve the area surrounding Kilmainham Jail! I have visited a few times and want to have the area remain essentially the way it is now for future generations to enjoy It is an integral part of Irish History and should not be destroyed Bridget, FL.grandparents from Co Waterford) USA
CommentsI learnt about this project from a Dubliner friend of mine. I had a vivid feeling that historical monuments should be preserved as much as possible. Don't make Dublin just another metropolis.
CommentsGREETINGS FROM TURIN, ITALY. AS I SEE DUBLIN CORPORATION IS NO MORE AND NO LESS ONE NO HEARTED-MULTINATIONAL COMPANY ONLY TAKING CARE OF MONEY NOT UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PAST. I WONDER WHERE YOU DIRECTORS AND CHAIRMANS WOULD BE TODAY ISF IT WEREN'T FOR YOUR PARENTS AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO LIVED IN THE PAST. MOST OF ALL FOR ALL THOSE WHO FIGHTED FOR THE FREEDOM OF YOUR COUNTRY ! WITHOUT THEM, NOWADAYS' IRELAND WOULD BE KIND OF BANGLADESH !!!! IT WOULD BE BETTER KILMAINHAM TO BE LEFT IN THE ACTUAL STATUS WITH NO MONSTRUOUS BUILDINGS SURROUNDING IT TO PRESERVE THE MEMORY OF THOSE WHO WERE IMPRISONED, SOMENONE TO DEATH, TO REACH WHAT YOU ARE TODAY. GREETINGS AND MAY GOD OPEN UP YOUR CLOSED MINDS !!!
CommentsIt is with the deepest regret that once again I feel I must write to tell you how deeply distressed I am by the revised plans for Kilmainham. To believe, as the developers seem to, that simply renaming the project after a martyr of the '16 is a valid answer to the concerns of the people is uttererly rediculous. As I said in my first submission to the Corporation, I believe that the protection of historic places is one of the most important things we have to educate our children and the world about the ongoing struggle of the Irish people. To allow any development to infringe on the meaning of these places sacred to the memory of Irish around the world would be yet another blot on our incessant history of betraying ourselves. I truly believe that this development may " beautify " the city and make good economic sense. However I have always felt that the history of my people, the struggles we have been through, and are going through, are of more importance than being a "world class" city. To allow this project to go ahead is to eventually trivialise the meaning of that struggle and this important building in the history of that struggle.
CommentsI object to what the Dublin Corporation wants to do to the history of Dublin, Ireland, leave the area around Kilmainham Jail as a permanet reminder of what Irish went through.
CommentsDublin Corporation (Planning) Wood Quay, Dublin 8 I object to the "new" plans (2217/01) for "The Heuston Office and Technology Park". Surely, although I am not an Irish citizen, my opinion that the public need have a say about how their lives are affected by others is a reasonable and just opinion.
Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there. --Rumi, 12th century Sufi poet
CommentsI cannot express strongly enough how much I object to any changes in the Kilmainham Jail area. Because of my heritage and my passion for exploring the history of Ireland I must write to tell you that any changes in the historic atmosphere of the area should be declared criminal. The changes I have seen in my trips to Ireland since 1984 are stupendous. I had no trouble understanding what "Celtic Tiger" meant. Now let's just be sure the tiger doesn't chase it's self in circles (sorry, I guess that's an American story.) The work done on preserving and presenting historic sights has been perfection up to now. PLEASE, let's not bungle it now! Debra Evans Omaha, Nebraska USA
CommentsThe proposed development so close to Kilmainham Jail is an absolute disgrace and one I am vehemently opposed to. Anything that takes away form such an important historic building should not be contemplated.
CommentsA friend of mine lives in his sister's house in Kilmainham. He is for the proposed blocks. He says it will increase the value of his sister's property. It is probably the only reason why anybody would be prepared to sacrifice our heritage:- greed. Shouldn't we realise that the true riches in life aren't monetary. Understanding who we are (and indeed who we were) and where we come from are some of the many other things in life which hold much more value. Infringements upon this understanding will be regrets of our generations to come.
CommentsDorn Simon, Dublin, It is astounding how this development is still being reviewed as a go ahead, the initial first design was protested against and for very good reason, and the developper has now put in for a second planning permission, with alterations that exceed the original bulk design that has already been objected to...It has come to my attention, that a local resident in this area, had previously put in a planning permission for an extention of simply 2 storey's to match thier house, this was refused, under bad planning, then why, tell me, has a 4 storey building which is simply one part of this proposed development, been approved, just inches away from where the 2 storey had been refused??? Oh and the reason for the 4 storey approval, its good planning!! Kilmainham is already getting swarmed and suffocated by the surrounding busy roads and development that is supossedly progression, don't lose this village due to greed, as when all is said and done, econemy changes, history doesn't.
CommentsI have visited Kilmainham Gaol three times over the last seven years and feel that it is one of the most emotional experiences I've ever experienced - the other two were Dachau and the Alamo. It would be sin against Irish history and the martyrs who have given their all for the cause of Irish independence to allow this project to go forward and detract from the significance of Kilmainham. Jim McNally - Millersville, MD - USA
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CommentsI am from the United States. I recently visited Ireland and Kilmanham Jail was the best of all the sights I visited. The tour, tour guide, museum all deepened my empathy for the Irish people, a people to be greatly admired for their perseverance, commitment, and love. I feel the proposed plans would diminish the importance of the Jail as a symbol of Irish heritage.
CommentsI object to the new planning application by Treasury Holdings of 20th July, 2001 (your ref 2217/01). My objections are the same as those for the original application (your ref 2467/00) and if you can be bothered, you can find them on file. They so-called new plan is even more laughable than the original, raising Block C from three to four stories and naming it after Sean Heuston. It's obvious we're dealing with some major league comedians here. If they want to built such a development, they stick it out in Parkwest, or some similar location. In the meantime, if these developers need any suggestions, I can think of loads of places where they can stick their plans! As a postscript, I've just realised as I was writing that I've been subconsciously humming Ewan McColl's "The Father's Song", in which a father consoles his young son ( who's woken up crying, having had a nightmare ) with the words "there are no ogres, wicked witches, only greedy sons of bitches". As we'd say in Inchicore, "gas isn't it!"
CommentsVehemently object to the proposed changes. Do not diminish the importance of the heritage of the goal.Even the president Eamon de Valera was imprisoned by his fellow Irish citizens in this historic place. The proposed is incongruous with the buildings and will lessen the impression of the millions of visitors to the site.
CommentsHello: I am a fist generation Irish American, with roots in County Louth. It is appaling to me, to learn that the area surrounding the Historic Kilmainham Jail is being considered for high rise development. Such a sacred site should be preserved for generations to come. It would be much better to construct a memorial, museum and chaped on the proposed site. I will be returning to ireland within two weeks, and Kilmainham will be uppermost on my list of places to visit. It will be a return visit for me, and one which I always enjoy.
CommentsI STRONGLY OBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT PLANS OPPOSITE KILMAINHAM JAIL, ON HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL GROUNDS I just cannot believe Dublin Corporation, and how you conduct your business, you have absolutely ruined Dublin City beyond belief, Please (for Gods sake) leave this historical building alone. Have the courage to stand up to the developers. LETS HAVE SOME DUBLIN PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR OWN CITY AND ITS FUTURE, AND HOLD ON TO OLD DUBLIN.
CommentsI object strongly to the building of office blocks in this area which is in dire need of a heritage centre. The fact that the original plans have been revised and actually altered in such a manner as to increase the height of the proposed building is an insult to the people of Inchicore, Kilmainham, Dublin Ireland, and the world. The planning department of Dublin haver a lot to answer for if they agree to this proposal and will leave a dreadful legacy to our successors. At a time we are trying to clean up our 'dirty Dublin' image and it appears that the Planning Department are intent on portraying an image of corporate Ireland and ignoring the wishes of local people and the citizens of Ireland. As ordinary people who pay our taxes and are interested in our heritage, our image and our environment we can do something constructive about our litter problem, what can we do in the face of beaurocrats who accept brown envelopes and leave us with monstosities of bulidings for posterity. Hopefully the planning department of Dublin will prove to us on this occasion that they are beyond reproach and will take into consideration the genuine objections of local, national and international lovers of Ireland and our heritage. We are not standing in the way of progress or living in the past when we suggest that there are numerous industrial estates dotted around the city and on its outskirts that are adequately suited to office blocks on this scale, with the infrastructure required for such a venture. Inchicore/Kilmainham does not fit this bill. What if the celtic tiger collapses? Will our new office block become a derelict eyesore, another blot on our horizon? We have always relied on tourism. A heritage centre for Kilmainham will suit all concerned. It would be economically viable, always in vogue, and contribute to employment in the local and wider area. Yours sincerely, Ms Phil Robert M.A.
CommentsI disagree with the office blocks. The historical significance of the gaol should take the higher priority.
CommentsIs this the best Irish Architects can produce for Modern Dublin yet in an Old District. Sliced pan, flatroofed Lego blocks that would look out of place on Mars. Kilmainham does not deserve (with permission) from the city officials this muck. Its not even contempory. Its just 3 modren sweat shops / big Iowa wheat barns one would see in the American mid west. I object to 2217/01 and the name Sean Hueston being exploited for this greedy architectural devoid,boxy,lumpy so so bad building design and right in the face of the birthplace of the Irish Nation.
CommentsI was one of the 160,000 people who visited Kilmainham Jail in 1999. I also visited the Royal Hospital (modern art museum.) As an American of Irish descent, I was overcome with emotion by the entire Kilmainham area and what amazed me the most was how many visitors who were not of Irish descent were overwhelmed with the story and the atmosphere of the jail which illustrates critical years in Irish history. Surely you can find a development company that will take the character of the area and the buildings surrounding the open field into account when planning an appropriate use. Lest you think I do not understand the complexities of development issues, suffice it to say that I have worked for a large American municipality for the past twenty four years and heve dealth with this type of issue many times. There is always room for compromise and negotiation. Terrie Moran
CommentsI've only visited Europe once and this great site was one of my favorites in Ireland. It seems a shame to disturb this wonderful look at the awful past. Please take this international opinion to heart and leave this wonderful historical place as it is. Thank you! Bob O'Halloran, Virginia, USA
CommentsWhile I confess a less than adequate understanding of the issue, in generic terms, I am opposed to any structure, or complex of structures, that would in any way, denigrate the historical significance of the jail. I feel that development could very well have the effect of diminishing the sacrifice of the myrial patriots who were interned or executed there in the cause of Irish freedom.
CommentsI object to the revised plan for the 'office/technology park. I agree with the comments made on kilmainham-gaol.com. The importance of this site and its potential for the community is being neglected.We need a development that is visually at home in this space, not one that jars with its surroudings.Its function too is important. This part of Kilmainham still has a village feel and needs a development that will build on the history/culture and art of the area and wil consider the wishes of the community. Its economic potential can be achieved in ways other than an office park- a well thought out/well designed plan which builds on the tourism and history in the area while not neglecting our reponsibilities to this historic site.
CommentsSo yet again Ireland is to be sold at a profit,the fat cats of Dublin Corporation should learn from history what can happen if you refuse to take notice of the will of the people. NO to the office blocks.SAVE kilmainham jail. T.P. O'REILLY, MERSEYSIDE
Commentssave the sanctity of kilmainham gaol. ballinamore county leitrim
CommentsShame on you. You should be protecting your National heritage instead you are desecrating the hallowed ground of Irish Martyrs. Naming it after Sean Hueston does not remove the stench.
CommentsDublin does not need more congestion, put the office complex outside of the city, it is a pity to name such a blight after Sean Hueston, Cromwell Towers would be more appropriate.
CommentsDear Sir/Madam, I wish to object to the latest appended planning application as being over-large, unsuitable for the heritage location of Kilmainham Gaol and also being essentially the same plan as one previously submitted by this developer, thus vexatious and an attempt to get around previous objections to their plan. Yours Sincerely, Michael Logan Tyrconnell Park Inchicore
CommentsKilmainham Gaol might as well be demolished and paved over for office block parking, if this development is allowed to continue - this sacred site should be gikven the same respect as a cathedral Michael Hayes, USA
CommentsI would hope and pray that the magnificient Kilmainham Jail and all that it stands for will not be dwarfed by the planned office buildings. While progress is wonderful, and Ireland surely needs progress, history and the struggle for freedom by the Irish people must take center stage. If the buildings must be built, re-design them so they are not so overpowering. New buildings do not make a statement, Kilmainham Jail certainly does. Thomas Sheridan Santa Clarita, California 91350 U.S.A.
CommentsI object to the proposed plans for buildings opposite Kilmainham Jail on the grounds that it would visually impair the entire Kilmainham Jail area and its standing as a fulcrum of Irish historical importance. The projected influx of traffic as a result of the development (coupled with the movement of heavy machinery during its construction) to the already congested area would also seriously erode the ancient building. Mairtin Breathnach, Apollo House, Tara Street, Dublin 2.
CommentsI am writing from Old Kilmainham Rd. and again say the proposal for a multi storey office block is absolutley ridiculous outside one of our National Heritage sites. The Rowntree building is pretty ugly, so knocking it is a good thing, but the area is already quite elevated and I see the plans have now changed to make Block C taller behind Spencer Terrace. It'll over shadow not only the Gaol & Courthouse but the beautiful war memorial gardens will have to live in its imposing presence, also it'll adversely effect St. John's Well. It seems ridiculous that in a city of low buildings THIS is where the decision is made to build a monstrosity. Please don't grant the permission. Why not consider building a plaza with a coffee house & shops (2 storey) but no one wants multi storey office blocks here. Thank you.
CommentsI strongly object to the proposed new development near Kilmainhah jail, as I feel such a significant historical building would become obscured by a modern multi storied building, and that heritage sties of this importance should be preserved intact at all cost. Carol Osgood, Christchurch, New Zealand.
CommentsI am opposed to the building of the multistory development opposite Kilmainham jail as I believe it undermines the importance of the jail ,its historical past and the importance that should be allocated to a building of such national Importance. I am from Leixlip in the county of KIldare but am writing from New Zealand wherre I live at present.
CommentsI visited Ireland in March and touring Kilmainham Goal was one of the highlights of my visit. Although I do agreee that the surrounding area needs to be developed, the proposed structure is overbearing and would detract from the Goal and its significance. Renaming the structure does not change that fact. I hope for your success in opposing the construction of this structure. I'm planning on returning to Ireland in March and I know that Kilmainham Goal will on my list of sights to see. Sharon Sloan, Millersville, Maryland USA
CommentsAll I can imagine is the thousands of Republicians (held in kilmainham jail) bowing down on one knee, as the news spread of Micheal Collins Death. Oh yes while there building, why dont they pave over Glasnevin while their at it.Brooklyn, New York USA
CommentsOnce again, though perhaps too late, I strongly object to the new planning application by Treasury Holdings of 20th July, 2001 (ref 2217/01). There is no justifiable reason to denigrate the neighorhood with an even taller barn than before, and the re-naming of the buildings to incorporate the memory of a hero is a mockery at best. Dublin Corporation, listen to the people and for once preserve the historical integrity of a neighborhood and develop it in line with best use practices and needs. Another office block isn't the answer.
CommentsThe proposed development at Kilmainham will destroy the appearance of one of Dublins few attractive locations. The disregard shown in this proposal for the needs and wishes of the local community is unworthy of any organisation claiming to represent them. The decision makers should remember who they are ultimately employed and / or elected by. Gillian Roche Ballyfermot Dublin 10
CommentsI am from Paris, Kentucky in Bourbon County, USA. I,with three of my daughters and one granddaughter, visited the jail this past June. It was the most inspiring part of our trip. I guess you could call it inspiring?? I had lots of chills up and down my spine. I have read Walter Macken's Irish Trilogy. The jail brought things "alive" for me. I wish that I could help in your endeavor. My ancestors are from Ireland, my name being McGee. It was wonderful being there for 10 days in June. I have never met such friendly people. Every one was so accomidating and gracious.The land is beautiful, the flowers are beautiful the sheep wonderful. You have the best butter I have ever tasted and the salmon was great. Up the queen! sincerely BOCOFarm@aol.com (Mary Jo McGee Anderson)
CommentsSave the Jail. I amn sure that there are other places in Dublin that could be developed. I was just there in June and see no reason for you to desecrate this ground. Name is after one of the brave men who died there??NEVER!!!!!! I hope to come to Ireland yearly. One place I want to visit each year is the jail. A most inspiring place!
CommentsI am from Louisville, Kentucky in the States. Of all the places I visited in Dublin by far the most impressive and truly meaningful to me was my visit to the Kilmainham Gaol. I am right now in the middle of reading Last Words, the book of letters and statements of the leaders of the rising at Easter. Please do not allow this development to go any further. It sounds like it will ruin the impressive facade by possibly diminishing the visual effect on the visitor. Something more in keeping with the area and what it stands for historically makes more sense to me and to others I am sure.(I am sending you the information asked for below but I do not know my country code for my phone number. Sorry!!)
CommentsMary Taylor( Dublin Corporation) see your hideout on the SCR is coming on nicely really looking forward to giving you a warm welcome to our place, so your all set to see your infamous IAP roll along and well planned out with the vulture developers. All ready to butcher this old place,we think it's most appropriate that you have chosen to set up camp in what was previously a BUTCHERS SHOP!! Again welcome to Kilmainham looking forward to seeing you, if your ever in !!
CommentsI believe that the Jail would be diminished by this development. Please reconsider and adopt something more appropriate. It is an important symbol that resonates in the hearts of people everywhere. Chandler, AZ, USA
CommentsKilmainham Jail is the most amazing place i have ever visited. Not only in Ireland but anywhere i have been!! You must keep this national Tresure!! Simon Gray Llantrisant Wales
CommentsI wish to add my voice to those strongly objecting to the proposed construction across from Kilmainham Gaol. This is not appropriate use of this property. With the large number of visitors having no amenities in the area, it would be far more sensible to construct a suitably designed place to encourage even more people to visit. A restaurant, historical museum, gift shop, chapel could be incorporated into a design in keeping with the historical significance and appearance of the gaol. I intend to visit Ireland, and Kilmainham Gaol is very near the top of my list of places to visit. I would not like to see a modern office eyesore across the street. I am an American of Irish heritage of which I am extremely proud. Thank you for your consideration of my views on this matter.
CommentsDont do this, my grandfather was once a resident of the gaol itself!, we must protect our heritage Dublin
CommentsYet another disgrace by the Government. They are slowly but surley pissing everyone in the country off in one way or another. The thing is if any of us mere mortals wanted to build a modest little house in Dublin we'd probably get refused permission by the planning authority yet permission can be given for developments like this. So much for the tribunals. Obvioulsy there are still a lot of dirty politcians/councilers out there. Assholes. I live in Kilminham in Bow Bridge House. Check out http://www.wefew.com for another chance to have your say about the state of the nation.
CommentsSpeaking as a Londoner with Irish roots and one who has witnessed on my many visits to Dublin the so many modern buildings that have been built in the city and not one of them a building of any architectural merit other than simple function. What are the schools of Irish architecture producing for these times, architectural clones with only verticle type cognitive designs, NO LATERAL THINKING what so ever, simple slaves to developers. Inner city Dublin oficials, THE CORPORATION I think they are called no vision for this so perfect and unique site. No office blocks would be permitted for instance right in the face of the Tower of London or adjacent to any other "top drawer" historical monuments or attractions. I have studied the images of these office blocks and they belong in some office park or more suitable place. Ireland's Kilmainham Jail should not be impinged upon and its architecture and historical importance dwarfed by the simple purpose and simple design of these office spaces.
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CommentsShame on you!There are no other words to describe it.Shame on you!
CommentsPlanning Department??? Is this a suitable name I wonder.
CommentsSomething of such historical value should not be overshadowed by office blocks.
CommentsMy partner and | visited the jail last month for the first time and enjoyed this visual history of irish times and would be dismayed if the land around it would be the sight for a office block - dont do it!!!
CommentsI am the great grand daughter of Mr. Michael Stafford, one of the founders of the restoration and preservation of Kilmainham Jail and Courthouse. I object to this office block because it would not only take from the beauty of this historical Site but would also destroy part of my family history, culture and heritage.
Commentsthis is disgraceful, here again we see our heritage being eroded in the interest of good business. is it to be wood quay all over again?
CommentsAs an architecture student being educated in this city I feel that the proposed development is wholely inappropriate for the site and its surroundings. It is yet another example of Dublin Corporation's continuing failure to safe gaurd this country's architectural heritage.
CommentsI visited Kilmainham Jail this year when on holiday in Dublin and was highly impressed by it. I have recently heard that office blocks are planned near to it and that these would be high enough to diminish the status of the jail. I ask you to think again before deleteriously affecting a superb tourist attraction. Martyn Sheffield, Coventry, England.
CommentsI visited Kilmainham Jail this summer on my People to People Student Ambassador trip. It was an incredible experience. It would be a terrible shame to allow anything to disrupt the atmosphere of the building. Pensacola, Florida, United States
CommentsMy ancestors were from the Kilmainham area. Last week we visited the area and went into the Gaol. We were both fascinated and saddened by the history of the gaol and realise that it has an enormous historical significance to the whole of Ireland, not just Dublin. The area has a lot of charm, especially Old Kilmainham. It would be such a travesty and a great shame to build an office block in that area. So much of old Dublin has already been demolished, my ancestors homes no longer remain. Please do not ruin this old area any more with a huge office block. Although not far from Dublin centre, the traffic is not as bad as other peripheral areas of Dublin, an office block would increase congestion and it would be difficult for tourists to the area to park or explore the area and it would overshadow the gaol and completely ruin one of the remaining old areas of Dublin. I live in North Wales UK
CommentsKilmainham jail is not only part of Dublin's heritage, it is culturally important to Australia and Australians. Two of my great great great great grandmothers spent time in Kilmainham waiting for their trials and transportation to New South Wales. One of them, Sarah Cassidy, was born in Monaghan in 1797. She married Cormick Cassidy, and gave birth to four daughters and a son. In 1836 Sarah was tried at Monaghan for stealing clothes. She was transported to Kilmainham gaol in Dublin to await transportation to New South Wales. Prisoners at that time were transferred to Kilmainham seated on the top of a carriage, with chains around their waists, and must have felt great shame as they were exposed to the derision and jeers of the people along the way. When the convict transport Margaret sailed in January 1837 Sarah was allowed to take only two of her children with her, Elizabeth (or Bessie), then aged 8, and Maryanne aged 11. After Sarah's transportation three children were left to fend for themselves. As you can see Kilmainham is a part of my heritage, and I would wish it, and the adjacent area, to remain intact for the hundreds of thousands of Australians whose ancestors passed through its doors. I would also wish for coming generations to be able to visit. Regards Kerrie Stephens Melbourne Victoria Australia
CommentsI have visited Kilmainham 3 times and found it so moving. If anything it fills the vacuum the history books and films leave untouched. The building is a resting place for those that never left their mark on history, but struggled to survive against the backdrop of poverty that were a constant battle which so many fought against. I would like to think that Kilmainham will produce its own video as I wanted to bring the experience back to England with me in order to convey the atmosphere that cannot be contained in picture or recreated in conversation. I thought the film in the chapel was excellent and would have bought that if it was available. I could think of challenging a lot of ignorance over here with that! it would be great to come again, so please keep it open! I liked the guides with a great sense of soul expression. I loved the tale of Ernie O' Malley and the singing flame. My ideal job would be getting trained up to be a guide there! I live near an old prison here in England and after it closed at the start of the 1900's it became a greyhound track, then it fell into ruin and left as a dumping ground. Now they have built executive flats on the ground with exorbitant rents.The fortress front of the prison has been left intact(sandblasted) and the hideous wall around the complex. Don't repeat this at home! What a tragedy when you think that some of the prisoners that met their fate only yards from where I am sitting died of want and destitution and 'stole' a loaf of bread. They brought the prisoners from the small underground jail to this bigger one I have described above. The old jail is now a coffee shop, and even then I think that it takes on a cafe culture amid what should be revered.They advertise in the press that visitors can enjoy 'recreation' in the condemmed mans cell! It is NOT my cup of tea! Perhaps I am in the minority but I found Kilmainham gives recognition, history, and does not try to dilute the historical background out of which it was born. Yours sincerely Karen Walsh
CommentsI visited Kimainham Gaol in October and really feel that you should think again about the palned development as it might ruin what is a truely remarkable tribute to Ireland's proud history.
Commentsmy name is gary byrne and i now live in leixlip co kildare and i am originally from inchicore and i am totally against this development , i would like to know what measures are being made to stop this madness,
CommentsRe: Protecting Kilmainham Gaol Dear Sir/Madam, Kilmainham Jail is one of the most important historical sites in Ireland, and is a designated National Monument. The proposed office blocks are too large in relation to the Jail and would consequently diminish its stature. I agree, as a resident of Kilmainham, that the site opposite the Jail needs to be developed, but the national importance of the area and its close proximity to the Jail should be of paramount concern. 160,000 visitors came to see the Jail in 1999. These visitor's come from all over the world and visit the Jail to learn more about Ireland's history. Once their visit to the Jail and Museum is over, there are no local amenities for them to use. They must simply get on the bus and leave the area. The site should be developed with this sixth of a million visitors per year in mind, in addition to the local residents, who have little or no amenities in the area. I trust that you will give this campaign the due attention it deserves and listen to the voice of the people and reason. Sincerely yours, Sally-Anne McKeown
CommentsI object to the proposed office block on the grounds of aethetics.
CommentsI THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A CRIME OF THE HIGHEST ORDER FOR THE BUILDING OF THESE OFFICE BLOCKS TO GO AHEAD IN ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING PLACES THAT HOLD A HISTORICAL INTEREST AND PLACE IN THE HEARTS OF THE IRISH PEOPLE. TARA MULLEN DUBLIN
CommentsI object to the proposed office development beside Kilmainham Gaol
CommentsI wholeheartedly agree that the development of the sight opposite Kilmainham Goal should be in harmony with the existence of this National Monument. This is an area which is short on "village" amenities, so consideration should be given to developing this aspect of things. This would be of benefit, not only to existing residents, but also to the many visitors to the Monument. Gari McKeown, Shankill, County Dublin.
CommentsTo whom it concerns, I strongly support this campaign, so much so I have decided that this to be the main focal point of my final year thesis. I am a student in the Institute of Technology, Sligo, studying Interior Architecture. I have seen this beautiful area and have also seen the propsed destruction of this area. It is a shame to see the turn of the planning authorities in the past decade, this is Kilmaiham is just one exmple of what seems to be the future of Irish planning development. Sincerely Claire Higgins
CommentsIt is unbelievable to me as an Irishman that we can mistreat our own heritage so needlessly, especially when the area around the jail is so obvioulsy suited to a more cultural/commercial development, which would be more beneficial to both the jail and the community in Kilmainham.
CommentsAs a Dublin resident I am very concerned about the plans for offices overlooking Kilmanham Gaol. Why does the development need to be so large and why can't some amenities suitable for vistors be included. Integrated solutions need to be looked at more then merely plonking a massive office block beside one of our most important national monuments. Public space and public enjoyment of an area needs to be considered alongside mere economic criterea.
CommentsIt seems a nonsense to me that Dublin Corporation spend so much time and money trying to reviltalise the Kilmainham/ Inchicore area andn then turn around and allow this eyesore to go ahead. It also makes fools of the well-intentioned elected councillors who are powerless when it comes to matters like this. I had hoped that that John Fitzgeralds time as city manager would deliver so much more for the city than his predecessor, but this now appears little more than wishful thinking.
Commentsto allow the proposed develompment nixt to this most important site in ireland's receant history is a complete discrace and a insult to the people of ireland both at home and abroad
CommentsSirs, I have recently seen a web site detailing the proposed development close to Kilmainham Gaol on Dublins South Side, I would like to express my concerns that a commercial development may not be the most approperate for such an historical area. I will be looking at the progress of this application, and would like to voice my oppinion in oppsition to the proposed development. Regards David Gaynor
Commentsi am from n.irelad and i am not happy with the future plas, i am 14 and visited the jail last year, i am trying to find out about my great grandmother who spent time there and signed her name in a book, this book was removed from the jail and i am trying to find out more about her and where this book has gone to. what you plan to do would spoil irish landmark history, i am studying irish history in school at the minute, the act of union, home rule, land league, land war etc and it is a shame to come along and spoil history by building a building taller than the jail, it would just take the look of irish landmark history and make it seem like nothing, i disagree with your future plans and hope that you too will see sense ito NOT going ahead with the building work you have planed thank you.
CommentsDont destroy our heritage.Remember that people gave everything in that jail,for the freedom of Ireland.Build your offices somewhere else.What is proposed amounts to sacralige.
CommentsPlease do nothing to take away from the importance of this historic place. It is part of our history.
CommentsHi, I'm a 21 year old college student from the US, specifically New York. I studied in Dublin for five months last year and I took a trip to the Kilmainham Jail. I thought that it was a great musuem and what history it has in it! The feeling you get when you walk into the main court yard and see all of those cells and that set of stairs! Kilmainham is an unbelievable treasure of history and should be left as is and appreciated for what it is worth.
CommentsHi, I'm a 21 year old college student from the US, specifically New York. I studied in Dublin for five months last year and I took a trip to the Kilmainham Jail. I thought that it was a great musuem and what history it has in it! The feeling you get when you walk into the main court yard and see all of those cells and that set of stairs! Kilmainham is an unbelievable treasure of history and should be left as is and appreciated for what it is worth.
CommentsKilmainham Gaol will prevail and stand tallest over the banality of office blocks.
CommentsI live in Preston, Lancashire in England and visit Dublin once or twice a year. History is to be celebrated and the area around the gaol should be left alone ( if building work HAS to happen, then why not have it reflect the area )? There has been a shadow cast over Ireland for centuries from it's neighbour, now Irish people want to cast a shadow over their own history. SHAME ON YOU. John Mac.
CommentsGreat Site! Very impressive...I'm going to tell our visitors about it: <a href="http://www.oldfashionedblocks.com">Wooden Blocks</a>
CommentsIt sickens me the way in which our heritage and culture can be overlooked in such a manner. For shame......
CommentsRe: Tadhg Mac Giolla Whatever. Do you write Irish as badly as you write English?
CommentsI am appalled by this projected development. I visited Dublin for the first time last year, and was delighted by the way the city has kept its looks, and is not disfigured by too many modern office blocks like most European capitals. If this sort of unrestricted development goes ahead, Dublin will just become like everywhere else. What is needed on this site is a restrained block in traditional style with visitor facilities. Robert SIssons - Kent, England
CommentsIt is an enormous insult to Irish history and to one of its most important landmarks that these blocks will be allowed. Preserve the precious!
CommentsVincent McCarthy. Sunderland.England. I strongly object to the proposed office blot opposite Kilmainham jail. It would be an insult to the memory of all of the true heroes of the struggle and to attempt to curry favour by using Sean Hueston's name is diabolical. Second generation English,grandparents from County Leitrim and Dublin.
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CommentsWe should keep Kilmainham Jail as a monument for all thoese felons who passed thourgh that hellhole
CommentsI don't get it. Companies of this size have a responsibility to the environment in which they locate themselves. Unless they believe they can get away with it, I suspect. So who is allowing this? With the general election approaching, this is an issue we can all stress when being canvassed for votes.
CommentsI think that Dublin Corporation should not allow the proposed building to go ahead. Lift your heads above the parapet and realise that with tourism being one of our more lucrative industires now - you should be taking care of the likes of Kilmainham Jail and the surrounding area. Of course you should use the space for something - but why not some local industries or crafts, cosy little pubs or restraunts - when you have the tourists in the area you should try to keep them in the area and help them to spend cash which will in turn revitalise the area. In my own city of Kilkenny - the only major attraction is the castle - but by god the local business people know that once you get them to an area you should then provide them with an oppertuinity to spend. the whole community benefits. Listen to the people running and supporting the jail. There are enough office spaces in that city.
Commentsin my opinion any attempt by any person or persons to degrade our wonderful heritage such as kilmainham is loathsome and i pray that the ghost of our brave murdered heros shall haunt them and theirs forever.N.SHANNON SAGGART CO DUBLIN
CommentsI think that it would be a great tragedy not to mention a disrespectful act towards the people of ireland to carry on with the proposed development.The jail is a monument to the noble men and women who freed dublin from Londons yoke and as such must be preserved.Paul james Curtis,Glasgow Scotland
CommentsI am from the USA but am of Irish descent, and still have relatives in Ireland. Please, please protect this important piece of history! It is part of my heritage, and I want my granddaughter to be able to see it when she can appreciate it. She just turned two years old, and thanks to the beautiful music of Frank Patterson and also the Three Tenors, she knows every word to the haunting song,"Grace". By the way, she doesn't even talk much yet, but can sing many songs recorded by these wonderful men. "grace" is one of her three favorites. We plan on being there for the unveiling of the Frank Patterson statue,and would like to visit this site during our trip. How tragic if this very important monument were to be lost.... Sincerely, Cathy Connelly 737 F Street NW Ardmore, Okla. 73401
CommentsIt would be much better to develop the area with tourism in mind.
CommentsIt is about time we started to look after the few remaining vestages of our historic buildings we have left. It is sad to say that I am 37 years old and have to explain to my nephew where the mill stood in Mount Brown and where the old Dublin Union stood on top of the hill. I also told him about the plaque the was erected on the mill wall for the men that gave their lives there,to build this state.Theres no plaque there now and no mill either, and they have started to demolish the old Union building.The history of Kilmainham is dwindling fast,most people don't know about St.Johns well or the sacred fire of the Knights of Templer or the standing stone on Bullies acre, thats as old as time itself, or of the place of the original Kilmainham jail that stood on the site of Faulkners terrace long before the impressive 1796 jail was built. But because they don't know, dose not mean that they should have it taken away from them by the very people that should be edcuating them about such history.Our government has a right to the people of Ireland and the peoples of all nations to inhance this sight with all the facilities to widen the scope for tourism,cafes,tourist info offices,car parks ,Hotels, shops and all that goes with it. In this way the government will also be helping the people of the area by creating jobs in an area which has long been forgotten.When I was a very small kid I saw Dev give a speech at the gates of the jail, he looked over to a building that gave work to the people of the area and then to their children. But if he were alive today would he be able to look across the street at a building that did the same or at a building that stands out like a bowling ball on a snooker table and a staff that knows nothing and cares nothing for the area that the are bussed or driven in to and out of a 5pm. Regards, Paul Carroll
CommentsI read in the Irish Times today of the hearing by An Bord Pleannala on the future of this site. Lest the developers cite that objections have waned and use this website as an example of that supposition, let me restate my objection to anything other than 2 storey amenity buildings to compliment the fabric of the gaol and green space between it and the road and retention of all trees. This website and its archive now stands as a testament to well reasoned objection to the proposed development.The Bord have served Athlone well in preventing the development of the Big Meadow site and saving it for the corncrake and our natural heritage. Lets hope our historical and built heritage will be preserved by their decision on Kilmainham. Yours in Hope, Dr. Dara Fitzpatrick
CommentsBest of luck with the hearing, a stop needs to be put to this development
CommentsI support 100% the campaign to protect Kilmainham Jail and the outlining areas. I would also support them in their calls for an appropriate development of a heritage centre or park. The proposed development has no architectural merit for the this historical area of Dublin and it's sheer scale is nothing short of crass as it completely dwarves everything around it. It's location will destroy the Kilmainham Jails unique position on the landscape as this proposed development is nearly twice it's height. Surely somebody from the planning office recognises that this structure is totally inappropriate for this area, or have learnt nothing from the horrendous mistakes and irrevocable damage and vandalism committed to Georgian Dublin, Wood Quay etc., etc., etc.
CommentsBeing an American, the thing I treasure most in my visits to Ireland is that you appear to value your history, your momuments, your buildings. Please don't disappoint me. Find another solution--I'm sure with many great minds working together you can find a happy medium.
CommentsOk, so I never heard of the place. I’m an Aussie who was doing a search for some poem by some Irish poet laureate I never heard of either when I ran across this website. I wonder if in 30 years the site will look like the Alamo in Texas - a hugely significant historical site surrounded and almost lost in a canyon of downtown development. My God! This plan is more than historically irresponsible - it's culturally reprehensible! When we ever learn? When issues involve a historic site we really should be thinking 100 years ahead, instead of a profit in 5. There! You’ve now been politely bitched at from halfway around the world! Now off to find a copy of “Sanctity” by Patrick Kavanaugh.
CommentsOk, so I never heard of the place. I’m an Aussie who was doing a search for some poem by some Irish poet laureate I never heard of either when I ran across this website. I wonder if in 30 years the site will look like the Alamo in Texas - a hugely significant historical site surrounded and almost lost in a canyon of downtown development. My God! This plan is more than historically irresponsible - it's culturally reprehensible! When we ever learn? When issues involve a historic site we really should be thinking 100 years ahead, instead of a profit in 5. There! You’ve now been politely bitched at from halfway around the world! Now off to find a copy of “Sanctity” by Patrick Kavanaugh.
CommentsSorry about the double entry! I think I bounced my mouse key. So you got it twice from me. Good. The plan's so stupid it deserves it.
CommentsAs both child and woman i have pased by kilmainham gaol and helped many a tourist find their way to the gaol and told them about all the other places of historical intrest and beauty in the local area it would be a travesty to let the gaol be over shadowed by an office block it would be another christ church-wood quay scenario I live in Dublin
CommentsMonuments of national significance should and indeed must, remain unsullied by property developments. We in Scotland have not always heeded this basic lesson and the country is the poorer for it. I love Dublin and its heritage - lets keep it that way.
CommentsI just simply wish to ask the following question. Would one see a greedy application like the one proposed for the ancient district of Kilmainham even being considered in any capital city in Europe today and to front and dwarf a place of execution of a nation's fonding fathers ?? 2016 is only round the corner, this site should now be planned with that in mind.
CommentsI think the Jail is an extremely interesting and historical place which serves as a reminder to the atrocities served to the people of Ireland. Anyone who visits the Jail and goes on the tour will get a highly informative insight on what a tragic but inspiring history Ireland has. And Kilmainham jail has as big a part to play in that history as Edinburgh Castle has to Scottish history which anyone who has been to Edinburgh knows it would look pretty stupid with a block of flats as a backdrop so please dont blight the Historical look to this step back in time wonder. Glasgow, Scotland.
CommentsExactly would one see a backdrop of office blocks over looking PLace de la Bastille in Paris no one sees a fantastic opera hall etc. Office blocks would not be allowed to over look across the road from the Tower of London the Bradenburg gate in Berlin on nearer home St. John's Castle in Limerick, Kilkenny Castle or the Rock of Cashel - what a greedy and selfish scheme is Treasury's and Dublin Corporations plans for Kilmainham and only feet away from Kilmainham Gaol. Has nothing changed same old ways carrying on some 35 years after Wood Quay.
CommentsAmd to add - where the hell is Miss Sile de Velera our beloved Minister for Heritage the Arts the Islands blah blah Minister for anything and everything except Kilmainham Gaol-what an irony, her grandfather the Late Irish President Eamon or "Dev" must be turning in his grave and he was the last prisoner/leader of the 1916 Rebellion to be released from Kilmainham Gaol.
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CommentsIwould like to add my objection to the proposed development at Kilmainham. I have been a visitor to the jail on every occasion I visited Dublin and endorse the comment that there is nothing to keep visitors in the area once their visit is over. Greater recognition should be made of this site. I visited an Irish website recently and found that there was no entry for Kilmainham. I sent a letter to the site and received a apologetic reply that it was a tremendous oversight on their part. Please do not make the same mistake.I was born in Belfast but now live in England. I have relatives in Dublin and visit regularly. LEST WE FORGET!
CommentsIt would be a shame to see a monument to the long struggle of Ireland for freedom to be overshadowed by another monument to commerce. San Diego California, USA
CommentsI am an American citizen of Irish descent who grew up in Europe. I was shocked to find this website and discover that the Dublin Planning Commission is possibly as shortsighted as San Antonio Texas was (I've been there several time - have actually lived there, and STILL have problems finding the Alamo, due to overconstruction!), or as Poland almost was, when it attempted to add a convent to Auschwitz. Someone makes a reference to Dachau - I have been there, and a large part of the initial emotional impact is approaching it, and knowing that I was seeing what the prisoners saw when they first arrived. I've been to cities like Rothenburg, a medieval walled city where cars aren't even allowed! I've been to Paris, and seen the open spaces left around their national treasures. As I said, I grew up in West Berlin, where the only historical building/monument that is cheek-to-jowl with something modern is the Kaiser Wilhelm Gedãchtnes Kirche. It is the ruins of a church, and a new church was built on the same site, as it was still consecrated land. I could go on for hours. If this land is properly developed, with a view towards ENHANCING history, and also providing places for the tourists - both before and after they visit the jail, not only would it be more fitting, but, as the developers should consider, a lot larger longterm profit would appear. I have lived in Orlando, FL, where an entire industry has built up around tourism. Nobody there can say that Disney - who insisted on keeping an area thematic, made a financial error! Looking at the dates, this might already be a moot point (it is March 20, 2002), but if not, I beg the city planners and developers, as a history lover, lifelong traveler, inveterate tourist, AND former real estate broker (so my views aren't just opinion - also based on training and business), to reconsider this plan, and ask the developers to use the space more wisely. We here in America often make foolish long term decisions, in hope of short term results. I sincerely hope you are greater than that.
CommentsMy name is Christopher Higgins and I am from Massachusetts in the United States. I am of Irish heritage. Last summer I went to ireland for a week with my family and we visited the Kilmainham Jail or Gaol, which I found very interesting. It was thing that I was looking forward to visiting in Dublin! The Kilmainham is very important, it is the symbol of what the Irish people fought for and endured! It reminds me of what my family has endured. Please do not doing anything to the Kilmainham Gaol, leave it be!
CommentsThe space/site opposite Kilmainham Jail would be better developed as a Cultural/Heritage centre. With emphases on Irish/English relations. - John Kinsella.
Commentsi visited kilmainham jail in 2000'after years of living in "clara county offaly as a child and then manchester england it was always in the back of my mind to visit the jail. i finally realised this ambition and was greatly influinced by my visit and went on to write a software programm around its history especially its part in the 1916 uprising.I am horrified to hear of this proposal and would like to express my total objection'i hope you have had a good response and this area remains untouched. James Weir.
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